GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THIS IS HARRY BELLICK HERE AT MUSIC BOX RADIO, WITH THE MOST EXCITING SHOW TONIGHT. TONIGHT WE HAVE ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS OF SNL WITH US. AS WE ALL KNOW SNL MEMBERS DO VERY FEW INTERVIEWS, THEY ARE RARE AND VERY FAR BETWEEN. BUT THIS EVENING WE HAVE WITH US BLACK JACK TOP HAT ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS OF SHELLS AND LEATHER.. BLACK JACK AGREED TO THIS INTERVIEW, ONE BECAUSE I ASKED AND TWO BECAUSE HE FELT IT WAS TIME. THERE HAVE BEEN MANY RUMOURS AND STORIES ABOUT SHELLS AND LEATHER IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS FROM NAME CHANGES TO THE BAND BREAKING UP , TO CLEARING UP THEIR FUTURE CONCERT DATES AND MUCH MORE. SO LET ME INTRODUCE YOU TO BLACK JACK TOP HAT ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS OF SHELLS AND LEATHER
H= WELCOME MR. BLACK JACK AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE WITH US.
BJ= NO PROBLEM JUST CALL ME JACK.
H= I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE ONE OF THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS OF SHELLS AND LEATHER
BJ= THATS RIGHT HARRY, GOING ON 25 YEARS NOW.
H= THATS A LONG TIME TO BELONG TO ANY ONE BAND.
BJ= I GUESS, BUT SNL IS NOT JUST A BAND HARRY, WE INVOLVE OURSELVES IN MANY OTHER THINGS.
H= YES I UNDERSTAND SNL IS INVOLVED IN MANY ASPECTS OF THE ARTS, MUSIC, PAINTING, POETRY, VISUAL CONCEPTS ETC..
BJ= SNL IS ALL ENCOMPASSING MOVEMENT HARRY, MEANT TO STIMULATE THE HUMAN MIND AND SOUL
H= CAN WE GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING AND GET AN IDEA JUST HOW IT ALL STARTED
BJ= SURE
H= WELL JUST HOW DID IT GET STARTED
BJ= SITTING IN JOHNSON STRAITS ON A BOAT WITH A COUPLE OF BUDDIES SHOOTING GRAPEFRUITS WITH A 30 30 REMMINGTON.
H= SHOOTING GRAPEFRUITS, JUST WHAT DOES THAT MEAN JACK.
BJ= IT MEANS JUST WHAT I SAID HARRY
H=AND FROM THAT IT HAS GROWN INTO THE MOVEMENT WE KNOW AND LOVE TODAY.
BJ= WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE LOVE PART, WE EXIST FOR ALL TO SEE THAT THE TRUE EXPRESSION COMES FROM FREEDOM OF CHOICE AND NO FEAR OF THOUGHT
H= HOW MANY MEMBERS EXIST IN SNL'S TODAY
BJ= I DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T CARE, WE JUST ARE
H= DO YOU KNOW ALL OF THE MEMBERS
BJ= I DON'T THINK SO, JUST THE ONES I HAVE WORKED WITH.
H= HAVE YOU PLAYED ON ALL THE SHELLS AND LEATHER ALBUMS AND CD'S.
BJ= NO NOT ME, BUT THERE IS ONE MEMBER WHO HAS
H= WHO WOULD THAT BE JACK
BJ= I CAN NOT SAY, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK HIM, IF YOU CAN FIND HIM.
H=WHY DOES THERE SEEM TO BE SO MANY SECRETS AROUND SNL, IS IT NECESSARY TO BE SO SECRETIVE
BJ= FUCK HARRY I DON'T KNOW, I SEE NO SECRETS, WHY DOES A MAGGOT FEED ON ROTTEN MEAT THEN TURN INTO A FLY AND DISAPPEAR.
H= SNL SEEMS TO HAVE VERY DIRECT THOUGHTS ON MANY SUBJECTS THAT AFFECT THE WORLD TODAY.
BJ= THATS RIGHT HARRY, WE DON'T BELIEVE IN THE DREAM WORLD MOST OF SOCIETY THINKS THEY LIVE IN, WAKE UP AND SMELL THE SHIT COMING FROM THE SEWERS OF THE ELITE
H= CAN I ASK YOU SOME DIRECT QUESTIONS JACK
BJ= SURE
H= WHY DOES SNL EXIST, FOR THE MUSIC OR MORE THAN THAT
BJ= LISTEN HARRY IF YOU BELIEVE THAT A COW SHITS OUT OF ITS ASS, GIVES YOU MILK FROM ITS TEATS, EATS ONLY GRASS AND HAS FOUR STOMACHS AND THEN GETS GROUND UP FOR HAMBURGERS AND MEATLOAF, THATS YOUR CHOICE BUT SNL EXISTS FOR A MUCH LARGE REASON THAN JUST ITS MUSIC. THINK OF SOMETHING STUPID HARRY, THEN DROP YOUR FEAR OF SAYING IT AND IT WILL BE ANSWERED TRUTHFULLY BY THOSE WHO WILL NOT LAUGH AT YOU OR MAKE YOU FEEL FOOLISH. YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOT ALL COWS ARE MILK GIVERS OR GROUND UP FOR BURGER MEAT. SOME THINGS ARE LARGER THAN WE PRECEIVE THEM TO BE. REMEMBER THE MAGGOT TO FLY SCENARIO, THINK BEFORE YOU BELIEVE.
H= OK, WHAT IS SNL'S POSITION ON ABORTION
BJ= ABORTION IS WRONG, THE TAKING OF ANY LIFE FORCE IS WRONG, REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE A KID AND YOU COULD SPEND HOURS RUNNING OVER ANTS WITH YOUR TRICYCLE, OR CATCHING FLIES AND PUTTING THEM IN A JAR, PUTTING THE LID ON IT AND WATCH THEM DIE FROM LACK OF AIR. THEN THE NEXT YEAR YOU WOULD SPEND HOURS CATCHING FLIES ALIVE AND RELEASING THEM TO THE OUTDOORS AND SAVING THEIR LIVES. YOU COULD DO THIS AS A KID, BUT EACH YEAR IS A STEP IN DEVELOPMENT OF YOUR PERSONAL PRIORITIES. BUT WHEN YOU START TALKING PEOPLE WHO ARE OLD ENOUGH TO CONCEIVE AND GIVE BIRTH THINGS CHANGE. MOST ABORTION IS A SELFISH ESCAPE FROM CONFUSING ONES LIFE WITH ANOTHER LIFE. THAT MAN OR WOMAN DO NOT WANT TO NOW TAKE THE TIME TO CARE FOR THE LIFE FORCE THEY HAVE CREATED. SELFISHNESS IS NOT AN SNL WAY. THAT ABORTED FETUS COULD GIVE LOVE AND BE LOVED IN LIFE IF GIVEN A CHANCE. NO SNL IS AGAINST ABORTION
H= ARE ALL SNL MEMBERS VEGANS AS HAS BEEN REPORTED IN THE MEDIA.
BJ= FUCK NO HARRY, SOME ARE BUT NOT ALL, IF YOU EVER GET INVITED TO AN SNL PICNIC YOU WOULD SEE DEAD MEAT AND ANIMAL FLESH BEING COOKED AND DEVOURED BY MANY. AS WELL THERES THE VEGANS WHO EAT AS THEY WISH, NO ONE CONDEMNS NO ONE PREACHES NO ONE TRIES, IT DOES NOT MATTER.
H= ARE YOU MARRIED
BJ= YES
H= HAVE YOU BEEN MARRIED FOR ALONG TIME
BJ= YES
H= OK,
H= WE ARE JUST GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK AND LISTEN TO SOME SHELLS AND LEATHER, WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK AND MORE WITH BLACK JACK TOP HAT, ONE OF THE EARLY MEMBERS OF SNL, WHO IS HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS AND YOURS SO STAY TUNED FOR MORE WITH BLACK JACK AND PHONE IN YOUR QUESTIONS
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